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Subarticles
[edit]See thread on the Talk:Baise/South page. It's not OK for there to be a unilaterally-started single subarticle for a part of Baise. So is there a good reason to support complete Wikivoyage districting for Baise, or should that one subarticle be merged and redirected to Baise? Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:17, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Having said that, w:Baise says "The city has a population of 4.3 million, of which 1.4 million live in the urban area." So subdivision is not an unreasonable idea, but this parent article is not close to saturated. I don't think the fact that the one subarticle was unilaterally started in 2011 makes it more OK. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:22, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I agree and support merging Baise/South to here. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 19:42, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I created a subarticle because I will expand the content of the parent article and move what is not suitable for the parent article to the subarticle, and improve it. Other subarticles will be created later. MspreilsCN (talk) 03:43, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- You have no consensus to do that, so you cannot just plunge forward and do it. The parent article is threadbare, so as it stands, it certainly does not need to have information moved away from it. However, if you want to make a proposal, please tell us approximately how many listings would be in each subarticle? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:16, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- I won't create subs before reaching consensus. The meaning of moving away is that some places do not belong to Baise urban, they belong to other areas and should not be in this parent article. The parent article could have 20~30 listings more, because there is still a lot to write about in the sections such as See, Do, and etc. As for the three sub-articles of East, South, and North, each listings could be 20~40. MspreilsCN (talk) 06:39, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- 20-40 listings are quite a lot and could easily justify districting. However, having listings in the parent article of a districted city is contrary to Wikivoyage procedure. If this city is districted, the parent article should have summaries and background information, but no listings, and one of the district articles should be for the urban area. If that's wrong, maybe Baise should be a region and not a city, but even in that case, there shouldn't be any full listings in a region article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- China's administrative division hierarchy is relatively special. Chinese cities actually also represent a region. You can refer to the article structure of Chinese Wikivoyage. If you have a better article hierarchy, I'd like to refer for modification MspreilsCN (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- That doesn't change how the parent article should be treated. Overview, no full listings. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:10, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe we should have a region article for Baise Prefecture and the sub-articles include Baise (for the city itself) and rural area articles for the other regions of the prefecture? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 15:53, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds sensible. What do you think, MspreilsCN? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:03, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, it would look like Jiangmen. Alternatively we could adopt the Suzhou model, which involves treating areas outside the main urban area as separate destinations within the province. STW932 (talk) 16:08, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the context and links. Which model do you think would work best for Baise? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:29, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Personally I would prefer the Jiangmen model, and not just for Baise but for the majority of prefecture-level cities in China (except certain small ones). However, the Suzhou model is more common on this site and some users such as User: Pashley seem to prefer that model. STW932 (talk) 14:08, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. User:MspreilsCN, it looks like if you'd like to use the Jiangmen model, you have support. Let us know if you'd prefer to use the Suzhou model. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Jiangmen model is ok for me, and I think that is same as Fukushima (prefecture)? This looks suitable for Baise too. MspreilsCN (talk) 15:41, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, that seems similar. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:54, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MsprelisCN Please note that under the Jiangmen-Fukushima model, there still needs to be a discussion and consensus before you create sub-region articles like Baise South. And personally I think it's too early to be subdividing the region. Perhaps you could create city articles like Jingxi and Pingguo first. STW932 (talk) 06:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Considering that I'm not familiar with Pingguo, and most of the places I know in Jingxi are not in the city but in the rural areas, I'm afraid of that I may not be able to create relatively good city articles. MspreilsCN (talk) 06:50, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- You might not be able to create 'relatively good' city articles but you can still create them and maybe others will add more content later. That's how Wikivoyage works. On the other hand, if you're not going to start those articles, then it might be better to revert Baise to a city article (at least for the time being). STW932 (talk) 02:15, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I don't quite understand what you mean by "revert Baise to a city article". Baise is already a city article. Do you mean to delete the Baise (prefecture)? MspreilsCN (talk) 02:53, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Well, yes, that's what I meant. STW932 (talk) 03:54, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I don't quite understand what you mean by "revert Baise to a city article". Baise is already a city article. Do you mean to delete the Baise (prefecture)? MspreilsCN (talk) 02:53, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- You might not be able to create 'relatively good' city articles but you can still create them and maybe others will add more content later. That's how Wikivoyage works. On the other hand, if you're not going to start those articles, then it might be better to revert Baise to a city article (at least for the time being). STW932 (talk) 02:15, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Considering that I'm not familiar with Pingguo, and most of the places I know in Jingxi are not in the city but in the rural areas, I'm afraid of that I may not be able to create relatively good city articles. MspreilsCN (talk) 06:50, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MsprelisCN Please note that under the Jiangmen-Fukushima model, there still needs to be a discussion and consensus before you create sub-region articles like Baise South. And personally I think it's too early to be subdividing the region. Perhaps you could create city articles like Jingxi and Pingguo first. STW932 (talk) 06:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, that seems similar. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:54, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Jiangmen model is ok for me, and I think that is same as Fukushima (prefecture)? This looks suitable for Baise too. MspreilsCN (talk) 15:41, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. User:MspreilsCN, it looks like if you'd like to use the Jiangmen model, you have support. Let us know if you'd prefer to use the Suzhou model. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Personally I would prefer the Jiangmen model, and not just for Baise but for the majority of prefecture-level cities in China (except certain small ones). However, the Suzhou model is more common on this site and some users such as User: Pashley seem to prefer that model. STW932 (talk) 14:08, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the context and links. Which model do you think would work best for Baise? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:29, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe we should have a region article for Baise Prefecture and the sub-articles include Baise (for the city itself) and rural area articles for the other regions of the prefecture? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 15:53, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- That doesn't change how the parent article should be treated. Overview, no full listings. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:10, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- China's administrative division hierarchy is relatively special. Chinese cities actually also represent a region. You can refer to the article structure of Chinese Wikivoyage. If you have a better article hierarchy, I'd like to refer for modification MspreilsCN (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- 20-40 listings are quite a lot and could easily justify districting. However, having listings in the parent article of a districted city is contrary to Wikivoyage procedure. If this city is districted, the parent article should have summaries and background information, but no listings, and one of the district articles should be for the urban area. If that's wrong, maybe Baise should be a region and not a city, but even in that case, there shouldn't be any full listings in a region article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- I won't create subs before reaching consensus. The meaning of moving away is that some places do not belong to Baise urban, they belong to other areas and should not be in this parent article. The parent article could have 20~30 listings more, because there is still a lot to write about in the sections such as See, Do, and etc. As for the three sub-articles of East, South, and North, each listings could be 20~40. MspreilsCN (talk) 06:39, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- You have no consensus to do that, so you cannot just plunge forward and do it. The parent article is threadbare, so as it stands, it certainly does not need to have information moved away from it. However, if you want to make a proposal, please tell us approximately how many listings would be in each subarticle? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:16, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Now that our discussion is a bit chaotic, I'd like to offer some suggestions.
- Plan A: Following the Jiangmen model, I could split Baise/South into several city articles, and they'll be outlines, and delete Baise/South. Then, I could create outlines for the articles about other cities in Baise (prefecture). I've read WV:Style and believe this plan is ok, but it would create a mismatch of the article hierarchy in Guangxi.
- Plan B: Following the Suzhou model, I would move the other destinations in Baise (prefecture) and Baise/South to North Guangxi, then delete Baise (prefecture) and Baise/South. The Baise article would remain city article. This would fit in the article hierarchy. MspreilsCN (talk) 03:13, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- You may want to take a look at Pearl River Delta to see how Jiangmen fits in with the other cities in the region. STW932 (talk) 04:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Jiangmen has no counties, so although its quality is good, the article hierarchy is not suitable for Baise. In fact, we still need the Suzhou model. MspreilsCN (talk) 04:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- You may want to take a look at Pearl River Delta to see how Jiangmen fits in with the other cities in the region. STW932 (talk) 04:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)