Welcome, and an important question
[edit]Hello Dbludblo! Welcome to Wikivoyage.
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And now my question: Did you copy and paste this from anywhere? If you did, that would not be OK, and you should read Wikivoyage:Copyleft. I believe it is also too much background in too much detail for a travel guide. Could you please select the details that are most interesting and - such as the Satsuma Students, who are commemorated with a current-day museum - most clearly relevant to travelers?
All the best,
Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:55, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, first of all, thank you for leaving feedback. I've tried to simplify it, and I'd appreciate it if you could see if it's okay. Dbludblo (talk) 06:51, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will try to have a look tomorrow, after I have some sleep, though I'll be busy, but please reply to my question. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. It wasn't copied and pasted separately, but it was processed based on the information on the city hall and tourism sites. Dbludblo (talk) 08:32, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "processed"? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- There seems to have been an error using a translator. It means that the above materials were edited and modified. Dbludblo (talk) 09:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- OK, that's good. I normally state sources in edit summaries, but summarizing and paraphrasing is OK, within limits. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:21, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- I see. Thank you! If I want to mark the source, would it be better to create a separate source space and link it? Dbludblo (talk) 11:03, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- No, and don't make inline links of Wikipedia like this: it violates Wikivoyage:Links from Wikipedia, so the links need to be removed. See also Wikivoyage:External links. I said it's good to state your sources in edit summaries, which you put in the "Summary:" box below your edit screen. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:26, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. In summary, the source should be made and marked in summary, but if the source is Wikipedia, do I just mark it without leaving a link, and if the source is the city's official website, do I just leave a mark and a link at the same time? Dbludblo (talk) 02:57, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do it however you want, but I want to make sure you are aware that edit summaries are not in the article, only in the article's history. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:52, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's only summarized in history. I haven't summarized anything else. I don't know if you want this or if you should put the source at the base of history, but I'm leaving an answer. Dbludblo (talk) 03:58, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do it however you want, but I want to make sure you are aware that edit summaries are not in the article, only in the article's history. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:52, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. In summary, the source should be made and marked in summary, but if the source is Wikipedia, do I just mark it without leaving a link, and if the source is the city's official website, do I just leave a mark and a link at the same time? Dbludblo (talk) 02:57, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- No, and don't make inline links of Wikipedia like this: it violates Wikivoyage:Links from Wikipedia, so the links need to be removed. See also Wikivoyage:External links. I said it's good to state your sources in edit summaries, which you put in the "Summary:" box below your edit screen. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:26, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- I see. Thank you! If I want to mark the source, would it be better to create a separate source space and link it? Dbludblo (talk) 11:03, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- OK, that's good. I normally state sources in edit summaries, but summarizing and paraphrasing is OK, within limits. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:21, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- There seems to have been an error using a translator. It means that the above materials were edited and modified. Dbludblo (talk) 09:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "processed"? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. It wasn't copied and pasted separately, but it was processed based on the information on the city hall and tourism sites. Dbludblo (talk) 08:32, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will try to have a look tomorrow, after I have some sleep, though I'll be busy, but please reply to my question. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
Page banners
[edit]The pate banner that you added to Hioki is not in the correct 7:1 dimension.
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Ground Zero (talk) 13:19, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. I just modified it, so I'd appreciate it if you could check it. Dbludblo (talk) 06:37, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- There's a bigger problem with that article. Please read Talk:Hioki. We don't have articles about neighborhoods within cities unless the articles about the cities in question are overwhelmingly long and a complete districting scheme for the entire city has been proposed, discussed and agreed upon. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:11, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- Please check the talk page of hioki. Dbludblo (talk) 07:23, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- There's a bigger problem with that article. Please read Talk:Hioki. We don't have articles about neighborhoods within cities unless the articles about the cities in question are overwhelmingly long and a complete districting scheme for the entire city has been proposed, discussed and agreed upon. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:11, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
What not to say about the locations of listings
[edit]"The hotel is 1.7 km away from Ibusuki Station" is considered location touting on this site. You can say a hotel is right next to or directly across the street from the train station; otherwise, just give the street address and geocoordinates and leave it at that. Thanks! Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:12, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- All right. Thank you Dbludblo (talk) 04:06, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- As I said...Just describe the hotel itself; don't tout the location! Thanks. Edit all hotel listings accordingly. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'll change it Dbludblo (talk) 08:05, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, I've modified where I remember, and if you see any more places you need, I'd really appreciate it if you could let me know where you need it ^^ Dbludblo (talk) 12:09, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek What do you think now? Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 01:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Consider that this is in the first listing of Seoul/North#Sleep: "Dobongsan Mountain and Suraksan Mountain are close, and there is a vacation station right in front of you, so it is close to Seoul." What do you think I would say about that? User:Dbludblo, if you don't stop with and delete the location touting, we will block you tomorrow. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- I remember that first listing I didn't add or modify. I've never heard of that hotel, and I don't remember it. And when the update was in 2019, I didn't even start Wikivoyage. Dbludblo (talk) 07:52, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Well, you need to take care of it now. You chose to take responsibility for that article, did you not? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Does that mean that I have to revise even if it's an item that I didn't make? Dbludblo (talk) 08:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes! It's "your article", right? Come on, don't be lazy. You're getting class credit for this; the rest of us are just volunteers, and I have plenty of actual work to do. In fact, goodnight. I have to get some sleep for my gig tomorrow. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:04, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- OK, I've also revised the hotels in northern Seoul for now. Dbludblo (talk) 08:08, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I revised what was in the documents I revised. Dbludblo (talk) 08:19, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- please check it Dbludblo (talk) 08:20, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- It's no good. "content" in hotel listings is supposed to describe the hotel. "It's near the subway station" is still not about the hotel. Again, look at any star article and see how hotels are described, but that shouldn't even be necessary. Just think about what, other than location (which should be covered in the address and lat/long tabs) price (which also has its own tab), directions (own tab) and checkin/checkout (own tabs) you'd want to know about a hotel if you or a friend were considering staying there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:46, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- I deleted the alleged hotel descriptions in that section, but that's not because I want them to be empty! Describe the hotels! Provide useful information about them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. I have to go to bed now because it's night, so I'll edit it tomorrow. I want to ask you a question, and I want to know the Maginot Line of what standard is possible for the hotel's explanation. Dbludblo (talk) 14:58, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sleep well. I'll look for your question when you post it. Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:23, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'll start revising it now, but since this week is the exam period, I have to study other subjects as well, so I won't be able to finish it in a day. I'll try to revise it as soon as possible, so please understand. Dbludblo (talk) 05:09, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- It's OK. Good luck on your exams! Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:56, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'll start revising it now, but since this week is the exam period, I have to study other subjects as well, so I won't be able to finish it in a day. I'll try to revise it as soon as possible, so please understand. Dbludblo (talk) 05:09, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sleep well. I'll look for your question when you post it. Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:23, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. I have to go to bed now because it's night, so I'll edit it tomorrow. I want to ask you a question, and I want to know the Maginot Line of what standard is possible for the hotel's explanation. Dbludblo (talk) 14:58, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- I deleted the alleged hotel descriptions in that section, but that's not because I want them to be empty! Describe the hotels! Provide useful information about them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- It's no good. "content" in hotel listings is supposed to describe the hotel. "It's near the subway station" is still not about the hotel. Again, look at any star article and see how hotels are described, but that shouldn't even be necessary. Just think about what, other than location (which should be covered in the address and lat/long tabs) price (which also has its own tab), directions (own tab) and checkin/checkout (own tabs) you'd want to know about a hotel if you or a friend were considering staying there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:46, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Yes! It's "your article", right? Come on, don't be lazy. You're getting class credit for this; the rest of us are just volunteers, and I have plenty of actual work to do. In fact, goodnight. I have to get some sleep for my gig tomorrow. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:04, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- I thought I just needed to fix the problem among the ones I made Dbludblo (talk) 08:02, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Does that mean that I have to revise even if it's an item that I didn't make? Dbludblo (talk) 08:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Well, you need to take care of it now. You chose to take responsibility for that article, did you not? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- I remember that first listing I didn't add or modify. I've never heard of that hotel, and I don't remember it. And when the update was in 2019, I didn't even start Wikivoyage. Dbludblo (talk) 07:52, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- Consider that this is in the first listing of Seoul/North#Sleep: "Dobongsan Mountain and Suraksan Mountain are close, and there is a vacation station right in front of you, so it is close to Seoul." What do you think I would say about that? User:Dbludblo, if you don't stop with and delete the location touting, we will block you tomorrow. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek What do you think now? Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 01:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
- As I said...Just describe the hotel itself; don't tout the location! Thanks. Edit all hotel listings accordingly. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
Subheadings
[edit]We do not use bold text in headings or subheadings. Please correct your errors in these edits. Thank you. Ground Zero (talk) 13:25, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- I just corrected it, please check it. Dbludblo (talk) 13:40, 17 December 2025 (UTC)