Hierarchy
[edit]There's a discussion of how we broke down Southern California into regions on the Talk:Southern California/Hierarchy page. --(WT-en) Evan 14:17, 21 Dec 2003 (PST)
Counties
[edit]San Bernandino & Riverside are currently being lumped into the Inland Empire region - I'm too lazy to check and see if they actually overlap with what we're calling Southern California, but if not they should be removed. That said, I've never really been convinced that Southern California and the Inland Empire should be split into two separate regions... -- (WT-en) Ryan 00:47, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)
Riverside and San Bernadino Counties are part of Southern California according to all conventions. Riverise County, for instance, is home to a popular travel spot, Palm Springs, which is always considered part of So Cal. Together Riverside and San Bernadino Counties form the Inland Empire, which is part of Southern California, although virtually never used by locals (as in "I'm from the Inland Empire").
- See also Talk:California. -- (WT-en) Colin 03:18, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)
- Yes, I saw this. It's wrong about the IE. Check the wikipedia entry on IE, it correctly considers the IE an integral part of Southern California as do all demographers and historians. Just trying to help.
SLO, Kern
[edit]I rolled back an addition of SLO County and Kern County, since I believe they're both listed elsewhere. --(WT-en) Evan 12:28, 30 Dec 2005 (EST)
Santa Barbara, Ventura Counties
[edit]Discussion regarding cleaning up discrepancy between California Regional definitions and Southern California subregions currently at Talk:California/divisions. -- MisterCustomer (talk) 23:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
- Updated regional map to reflect California regional hierarchy. -- MisterCustomer (talk) 02:14, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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Spin out freeways into separate page?
[edit]I am in the process of expanding the section describing LA's freeways. It might get long enough to justify its own page Purplebackpack89 19:14, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
Pornographic video industry
[edit]@Yvwv: Re: this edit: To my knowledge, the U.S. pornographic video industry has indeed been largely based in L.A., and specifically the San Fernando Valley, since the days when it switched from film to video in the late 70s and early 80s. Whether we want to cover that in this travel guide, I doubt, but I don't think the San Fernando Valley is a hotbed of mainstream film, though I stand to be corrected. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:26, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- The text has been in the article since
WikivoyageWikitravel, written by unknown authors, so we can only guess what they intended with the phrase. Fiction tourism (including visits to theme parks, studios, feature film sets and similar attractions) is a main attraction for visitors to southern California. Wikivoyage:Sex tourism policy does not prohibit mentioning of pornography-related destinations, but I doubt that many people visit the region to visit places where porn is produced, and I am not sure that this information fulfills Wikivoyage:The traveler comes first; probably the whole section could be rewritten for the traveller's best interest. I also drafted a paragraph in Wikivoyage:Words to avoid for the phrase adult entertainment which can be either euphemistic or confusing. /Yvwv (talk) 19:21, 5 May 2026 (UTC)- You did a good job at Words to avoid. I think you mean that text has been there since Wikitravel. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:45, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the address. Wikitravel has for a time been our Voldemort; the site that should not be mentioned. They are no longer a competitor. /Yvwv (talk) 10:32, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- You did a good job at Words to avoid. I think you mean that text has been there since Wikitravel. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:45, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- That the pornographic film industry is based in LA/SFV is both true and entirely pointless to a travel article. Porn is frequently filmed in people's homes and garages, or in nondescript buildings with blacked-out windows. Because filming porn is frequently illegal or unethical, it's done in secret. There's just not as much tourism to be had as there is with legitimate film studios and the locations of legitimate films. Purplebackpack89 03:38, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think it's frequently illegal in California. Where are you getting that idea from? Nor do big businesses tend to care that huge money-makers are unethical, as witness the huge publicity around gambling (not to mention petroleum products, etc., etc.). That said, we all agree that porno companies and such are not generally tourist attractions. I think the fact that the SFV is a hotbed of porn is arguably worth mentioning as a "How about that?" bit of background, but it's really not necessary to mention, and I certainly won't make the argument for it in the article for the entire Southern California region. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:59, 6 May 2026 (UTC)